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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 13, 2010 1:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

what's your take on Eyes?

to me

" there comes a redeemer and he slowly too fades away"

what I get out of that is Jesus and his followers/mankind is the wagon that's loaded with clay. Given a message but too dead weight to see it continue I have more theories on this

don't get me wrong I am not Christian nor am I athiest. I see Athiesm as being just as dogmatic as religion. I have certain spiritual beliefs or philosophies but whatever i think to be true or that MIGHT seem reasonable doesnt make it true nor do I really care or live in fear of the future. Just interesting things to ponder.

and I like a lot of Eastern stuff but I enjoy eating meet and other pleasures of the flesh so i dont get into it all that much haha

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 13, 2010 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

Yeah, I like that verse, I think it's just a simple observation that most who set themselves up as redeemers do fade away and fairly quickly in the grand scheme of things (night keeps coming close on the heels of the day). I don't know if the load of clay is literally the followers/humanity, or if it just means that the work that has to get done continues.

But I think like so many of Hunter's lyrics this one can probably be understood a lot of different ways.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 13, 2010 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

well the whole idea of a redeemer predates Christianity, it's found in a few myths

you might be right. I've always thought of it as the unrealized potential that is squandered by having the wrong perspective

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 13, 2010 11:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

clay holds the potential for much growth. it is an essential part of a healthy soil because its particles are highly polar and hang onto nutrients. clay is useful in the ground but could also be a burden if you always have to pull it around. but of course you are right, it's all a matter of perspective.
as one of you said, the clay may symbolize the work that has to be done. working with the clay serves the function of helping oneself to realize the bloom and decay around them and within them.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 14, 2010 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

interesting. i thought of the clay as weight, you know like new speedway - it's just as hard wit the weight of lead.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 14, 2010 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

why can't i find any videos of adrian belew with jars of clay?...

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/RvJa1hXj_FU/

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Poster: headgdhead Date: Aug 16, 2010 6:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

When did Jesus fade away?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 16, 2010 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

I don't know, but if he and Carlos don't finish the landscaping work out front I'm calling INS.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 16, 2010 8:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

LOL!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 16, 2010 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we bid you goodnight again how about this one?

" When did Jesus fade away? "

Well as Mark Twain I believe said - if Jesus were alive today there is one thing he most assuredly wouldn't be - a Christian

Personally I think his whole message has been hijacked